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THE NEW STORY
"Upon this gifted age, in its dark hour, |
The Conversation Develops: FROM: Daniel Bushnell, 3/22/99 FROM: David Tresemer, Ph.D., 3/22/99 I am intrigued by this conversation. I would like to recommend a book which I recently wrote with two others, Signs in the Heavens at the End of a Millennium, which speaks to these very issues. Visit us at www.StarHouse-asc.org. FROM: Kynthia, 3/23/99 I agree with your New Story. Jesus was speaking of our awakening as he had -- internalizing the Truth rather than looking for it outside of ourselves. FROM: Rick Stoff, 3/23/99 There is no more empty feeling than watching stimulating guests being led in a discussion about important issues by Larry King. He is unable to get to the crux of any issue, pin anyone to their opinions or even hold off from interrupting an important answer. Forget the lack of follow up! That does not answer your query about a proper forum...but it might explain some of the frustration. FROM: Harald Walach, Ph.D., 3/25/99 I find a lot of richness in the traditional Christian (that is Catholic) rituals and teachings. It's a shame they are so badly taught and interpreted. If it were not for my own experience I should not know what to make of them. I am quite convinced that good teaching, backed by personal experience, could bring new thrust to the old story. I must say I hate traditionalists dishonoring other traditions, since this is the least thing which would be considered Christian. Most traditionalists make the serious mistake of taking the gospel literally instead of seriously. I think that what we need is an evolutionary picture of Christianity and the gospel. This has been initiated by Teilhard, but not taken up by scholars widely. The problem is that most theologians know next to nothing about science, biology, psychology, etc., and most of them are afraid to make contact with each other. The situation is comparable to that which existed in the 13th century, when traditional teaching came to a dead end, and only the integration of science, that is Aristotelian thought (in those days by Thomas Aquinas and others) gave new thrust to the old idea. Something comparable is overdue these days, which is what I think you are referring to. I don't know who could do that, and don't see anybody currently doing it. FROM: Ilene Cummings, 3/25/99 How overjoyed I am to become part of the conversation! My own deep immersion into the Episcopal Church, once again, is interesting to me. I have spent a good piece of my precious time deciding if I wanted to reaffirm my commitment to Grace Cathedral. I finally made the commitment on Sunday. A great ritual will happen on the vigil of Easter, and I look forward to it. What I seek is a community, ritual, beauty and prayer. These things make me stop and feel deeply in the heart that yes, the kingdom of heaven is within me. IS me! I am more deeply spiritual and religious than ever in my life and it gives me no end of peace and joy. |
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THE NEW STORY Our news business used to pay matters of the spirit little
attention, and what they did deliver was mostly Christian "church
news." This is according to a recent article in the LA Times by
John Dart, who is retiring after covering religion and religious
issues for the Times for 31 years. Until 1970, the lead
editorial in the paper, in their typical partiality to
Christianity, was a Gospel text of Jesus's birth. Since then,
however, things have been changing, with an especial opening to
new ideas and more reportage in the last couple of years. Many
papers now carry weekly religion sections and give front-page
attention to religious trends and events. |
FROM: Paul William Roberts, 3/25/99
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Suzanne Replies: Can we unpack some of your remarks? Why do we need to discredit anything, versus a better story coming to light? Is there a movement to discredit? Tell me more. What means the "mushroom" thing? The only mushroom story I know is Terence McKenna's -- that they are the aliens, and they're inside us now. OK with me. |
Paul replies to Suzanne, 3/26/99
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Suzanne Replies: Well, I'll be. So much for Jesus. How about you? Also, is your read that Christians are trying to bring about Armageddon? Is that popularly understood? Am I ignorant, Jewish princess that I am, in not knowing this? And, if "we" needed to rid the world of "them," how would we do it? Would we fight them or subsume them in a higher Truth? |
Paul replies to Suzanne, 3/27/99
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Suzanne Replies: Sounds too damn sinister. And Americans are too scared to die to go for such a thing. Other people tell me about the few big string-pullers, too, steering the world for their greedy pleasure. They say things like "we're all in a dark plot," and the Illuminati gets mentioned. It all seems like duality bullshit to me. How does anybody know? Why go for such scary drama? Really, why? How does anyone know such things? |
FROM: Robert Theobald, 3/25/99 |
Suzanne Replies: Yes, Robert, we are ingrained with separation. It is a challenge indeed to think together. Am plugging away (still) at how to overcome this, seeing it as the key to the kingdom. |
FROM: Pamela J. Smith, 3/25/99 |
Suzanne Replies: The "big chore" is it, though. Could it be time? As for the "separation of church and state," is separation "essential," or deadly? First the hook-up, then whatever comes out of that. First things first. "We" do of lot of preaching, where there isn't a real alignment among "us." I've always thought that that alignment is the key -- not to look to a planned result, but to creating a process where the one voice that is spoken is so beautifully radiant that it ripples out to envelop the world. I would love to have a forum that was attended to by the larger world...like a Drudge Report for consciousness! |
FROM: Pennell Rock, 3/25/99 |
Suzanne Replies: They were all having their say, and then this war machine (Graham) wiped them out. There was no exchange among them. The others kept acknowledging each other, but no one took Graham on. |